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Garwolf

Kutztown, PA

I didn't realize until checking out a Giant Pumpkin Facebook page and some links there that there are so many places operating seed consignment stores on line. I guess what people do with there seeds is up to them. I'm all about entrepreneurial endeavors and would even consider selling my own seeds if I ever grew one big enough to create demand. I saw at least one online site that get at least 50% of the sale. Other sites are charging double what the same seed is going for on other unrelated sites. While this is America and folks can do what they please with there seeds, these sites have no more credibility than the producer of the seeds has integrity. I'll just continue getting my seeds at the auctions or by direct contact I guess. I may pay a little more but I'll be supporting clubs and feel better about the transactions. If I ever grow a big one that has valuable seeds, I'll put up my own website before I'd ever give some Joker 50% of the sale. LOL - Just venting I guess.

2/21/2023 3:24:20 PM

Little Ketchup

Grittyville, WA

Ultimately it probably brings people into the hobby. The auctions here on bp seem to be successful but there are of course a few other ways to get seeds.

2/21/2023 6:56:16 PM

jay958

Ontario

charging big dollars for the seeds doesn't bring people into the hobby. sharing your seeds for free does. I have seen a few on Facebook, like you said charging $100 and up for unproven seeds.
the only way I would pay that much is at an auction to support a weigh off. some people are just into it for the money and not for the love of the hobby.

2/21/2023 8:43:35 PM

pg3

Lodi, California

I think seed prices are artificially inflated because we're supporting auctions. I think some people should keep that in mind when charging 2x market price on their online stores. Who knows maybe they're raking in the money, I doubt it though. Maybe they don't care much to sell them and are just trying to make it worth their while. I'm not buying them though

2/22/2023 9:44:37 AM

LIpumpkin

Long Island,New York

It doesn't matter how you get the seed into someones garden....once bitten the research starts and avenues of seed availability open up. Online seed consignment places reach an entirely new audience filled with potential wieghoff players, auction purchasers, participants and grower friends. I'm all for that.

2/22/2023 9:57:32 AM

big moon

Bethlehem CT

IN 06 I bought my first competition grade seeds from Ray Leonzi's seed outlet.com. Once I saw the difference that competition grade seeds can make in pumpkin weights, I knew I would never plant AG seeds again from a commercial seed Co. The next year Matt DeBacco saw my diary on Bp.com and emailed me. He then got me up to speed on how to ask for seeds from Growers on Bp.com. He also taught me the proper etiquette. For example don't ask for seeds you don't plan to grow the following year. If you are just speculating about growing a seed and want it in your collection you should buy it at auction. Times are a bit different now but many growers are still happy to see their seed get proven and are happy to share them for the price of a stamped bubble pack or a seed swap.

2/22/2023 12:01:12 PM

Captain 97

Stanwood, Washington

I also believe that it is good etiquette to only request seeds that you intend to grow. I feel that sometimes people are just collecting as many seeds as they can so that if one of them turns out to be the next big thing they have one. I had a nuclear red pumpkin in 2014 that only had 75 seeds in it. I mailed almost all of them out to people for free. Not a single one was grown.

2/22/2023 12:39:59 PM

Little Ketchup

Grittyville, WA

Interesting... even the Patons have complained that very few people grew the seeds they sent out. But yeah, the best etiquette for free seeds would be to even perhaps contact the grower again to let them know how their seed did. But of course there is a high probability of things not making it to the finish line, the worst one for me was "a chicken ate it". So, so uncool.

2/22/2023 2:36:56 PM

Little Ketchup

Grittyville, WA

By that, I mean MY chicken ate the last of their seeds, I still feel bad. So nowadays I figure if someone's seed is available at auction then thats probably the best way to get it.

2/22/2023 2:42:30 PM

Little Ketchup

Grittyville, WA

In all fairness to me I did actually plant their seed, pior to my newbie mistake I think the chicken was watching me the whole time. Sob story over & sorry for the triple post.

2/22/2023 2:49:54 PM

pumpkinpal2

Syracuse, NY

Gritty, aside from a look in the mirror,
that's the best laugh I've had all day!
Indeed, I was thrilled when someone grew my 178 last year and
had a heckuva plant going and then no more entries.
Butt, yeah, great to see one's own at another's, lol.
I just need to prove any of mine past 1000 and Extreme Navel
or Blood Orange, with that radial aircraft engine look!
Mmmmmm...eg

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=329306

I wish I had more of these seeds left!

2/22/2023 3:48:51 PM

Garwolf

Kutztown, PA

Yeah Gritty - that was pretty funny. My chickens are kept in the pen most days but I'll make sure I only handle my seeds in the house from now on. :) You don't keep your chickens in the house, do you? :)

2/22/2023 4:21:48 PM

Garwolf

Kutztown, PA

I bought my first seeds on the Wallace WOW site. I bought the "Atlantic Giant" then "splurged" on a Connoly "1624". I thought the prices were outrageous at the time and so did my wife. Little did I know how outrages they can be.

Anyway I guess you have to start somewhere. I would only add that "All Seeds" are unproven until they get in the ground. When you buy a seed your buying the "cross" not the pumpkin it came from. Seeds are just a vessel for transporting proven genetics IMO. So if there are proven genetics, e.g. 2365, 1885 etc. then I'm willing to pay what I need to.

Lastly, it was that Connolly 1624 that got me hooked. I think I paid $24.00 for it. It got a soft spot at about 650 lb. But it sure put 600 lb. of that on in a hurry. I was impressed, got some good photos with my grandson and hadn't put much effort into it. I guess you gotta start somewhere.

2/22/2023 4:33:19 PM

Little Ketchup

Grittyville, WA

I was outsmarted by a chicken, that says something huh...

2/22/2023 7:14:06 PM

spudder

Can't resist this. Maybe the chickens read your February 18th entry!!!!

2/22/2023 8:44:00 PM

waterstone1

Mn

Couple things to hit on here.

For me it's a little different than others I guess. When you grow a pumpkin that gets that much attention you almost have to put a ridiculous price on it or the general public would clean you out in a heartbeat! I literally had tons of people asking for handfuls lol. My first thought goes to protecting the seeds so they get into the right hands. The clubs then eventually the growers. Meanwhile the public still wants these seeds so you put them on Don's site for a bit more so you're not hurting the clubs chance at a good price. If they sell, they sell. Chances are if they are willing to pay for it they'll care for it. I don't believe lots of people hurling good seeds out for half the price to every fb site, group, and seeing it daily gets annoying.

I do think there is a lot of good that comes from some of the other avenues though because it brings in a group of growers who may not even know bp exists. Don throws a ton of marketing into it and almost a ridiculous amount of emails, haha, but it works. It's people we may never have had growing pumpkins.

This debate comes every year and it's nice to support the clubs and make sure they get their weighoffs funded.

With that there are a ton of seed hoarders. I'm going to sterotype the younger generations are usually the ones at fault but it's crazy how many world class seeds we all want that are sitting in basements. I have probably one of the smallest seed librarys out there. If I want to grow a seed somehow I'll buy it or trade but lately it's a game of hoard the seed in case it hits which is fine. I still buy a couple a year even in case they hit and even though I could probably ask the grower I usually don't.

Excited to meet everyone in Danvers,

Travis

2/22/2023 8:49:13 PM

Gads

Deer Park WA

So many seeds so little time! I say spread the word to as many new growers as possible. If tha means blasting the awesomness of growing a big pumpkin across social media and selling seeds to encourage people, more power to them! Once they get hooked and meet the community everyone knows if you want top genetics you can usually get them for the price of a SASBP.

I do think the proliferation of sucessful growers selling their seeds online is hurting clubs auction revenues which effects their prize money structure and trickles down to weighoff participation.

2/22/2023 11:49:08 PM

Dorset Farmers - MarkB

Dorset UK

As a grower of some of the minor GPC categories I go to two GPC weigh off's here in the UK where there is no prize structure for what I grow. This is no big deal to me but i think that gives me the rights to sell my own seeds to go towards my own costs of growing. That being said, as garwolf says these 'consignment stores' want 50% of the profits so im with on that no joker is going to profiteer out of me like that. I'd rather give them away which is what I've done this year.

2/23/2023 1:44:45 AM

Ken D.

Connecticut, USA

So what would be a fair price for hosting website? I have been asked about doing this on BP for a very long time.

2/23/2023 7:11:15 AM

quinn

Saegertown Pa.

Is this really what’s best for the clubs ? Why do people think if just a few people are selling seeds that’s all right ? What if we all did it what would happen then ?
I see growers winning prize money at weigh offs and then turning around and selling their seed, is that really what’s best for the clubs ? For me it’s all about the clubs, if all the growers with the top seeds sold their seeds were would we be ? They’re your seeds to do with what you want, no one can tell you what to do with them and if you want sell them, but when you do you might want to think is this what benefits the clubs the best or is it what benefits you.

2/23/2023 7:23:01 AM

Ken D.

Connecticut, USA

So if a website made is easy for a club to sell seeds, that might be the best idea?

2/23/2023 9:23:23 AM

Howard

Nova Scotia

Ken honestly, I do not know where you find the time and resources? Just with the weigh offs and auctions alone! You raised a very valid and crucial question. A huge ATLANTIC GIANT congrats from the Dill Family.

2/23/2023 9:30:05 AM

Howard

Nova Scotia

In regards to seed sales and fundraising some very good observations. It has been "part n' parcel" for many, many, years, but look where it has got us today literally knocking on the 3,000 door! Cheers Danny

2/23/2023 9:39:30 AM

WiZZy

President - GPC

Interesting thread... I remember a few years back, a very hot seed was sold for big buck$, highly sought after... the seed was brokered online, from a couple of venues.....and some found that the some of these seeds quite didnt match previous ones... Hmmmm. If one tracked all the seeds from this particular fruit, and there are still some showing up for sale, it was perplexing for one to believe the fruit had that many seeds.... Hmmmm. For the hobby to survive and grow, the attitude must be to > PUT BACK IN MORE THAN ONE TAKES OUT. Those who do are the real genetics behind the growth of our future.
“Wherever there is power, greed, and money, there is corruption.” “Let's stand and work together, as others have done before us, to reach our brightest future.” “The world has enough for everyone's need, but not enough for everyone's greed."

2/23/2023 11:22:39 AM

Ken D.

Connecticut, USA

I have never been in this to "get rich". I think everyone who has been around awhile knows that. I agree with Quinn, to raise money for the clubs and weigh-off prize funds is the main goal. However, it does cost money to run a website. For auctions, I just take a reasonable flat fee. Not a percentage. Perhaps something where a club could sign-up and sell seeds? Just brainstorming here. Not trying to put others out of business either.

2/23/2023 11:24:29 AM

WiZZy

President - GPC

Ken you are one that has PUT MORE in than one takes out! From within this hobby there are many who do, and that's why we will still GROW forward, for the LOVE of the Sport and Camaraderie.....

2/23/2023 11:45:53 AM

pumpkinpal2

Syracuse, NY

I think everyone is making enough money from selling and auctioning pumpkin seeds, lol;
$XXX a seed and $xxx (to not name anyone because I sell them also) and so on and $700 PLUS for one seed at an auction? X2, I believe? I've seen $1015 also. X2. OK. I have an $XX limit that I hit at an auction instinctively because 'Hmmm...can I sell a pumpkin from this to at least break even?' 'If I can make a little more than I'm riskin' for then the orange will turn the key' (Unknown); I am WEIGH at the bottom of the Seed-Sellin' 'Site and they are 3 or 6 for TWENTY. I rarely hear back about what was grown from any of them butt a small payback every quarter is VERY welcome. I do take into account what a seed is SELLING for when I see it also listed at an auction and they are unrelated topics because I think an auction is a venue where you SHOULD get a good deal - and then the bar is set already outta my mental reach with a $100 to $200 opening bid. I do look forward to seeds that I KNOW will be $3-, $4-, $500-plus because I know the pressure is 'on'.
I think my usual inner voice says 'Well, I hope it sprouts!'
At least I'm selflessly-optimistic! If it weren't for the MONEY, there'd be NO auctions and
NO selling. No kidding. I hoard 'em, I create 'em and I sell 'em. Oh, I forgot - I grow 'em.
Oh, I forgot 2 - I still have 'em.
True, I'll someday maybe have a top seed, up at the top, Garwolf,
but I'll keep it a good deal for YOU via email, lol---Later - eg

2/23/2023 1:45:19 PM

Garwolf

Kutztown, PA

I just hate to see 1st time growers get hosed purchasing mostly mediocre seeds from everybody and their brother on Facebook or some over priced consignments. It was my good fortune to find this website and the auctions before I even saw Facebook or the big consignment outfits. I can tell you if I'd paid double for a seed on my first purchase and then found it being sold for half of that somewhere else it would have left a bad taste in my mouth. I might have written the AG world off as just another scam. Trust is a big factor when purchasing seeds and is important in just about every aspect of this hobby I think. In order to fix it, I think you'd have to have paid annual memberships and develop a seed library where new growers/members could obtain a few seeds to get started for a small cost plus shipping. Then you'd have to make sure that info is posted on the Facebook sites so newbies no of it. Additionally you may have to initiate an educational war by posting the availability of free seeds from GPC on the Facebook sites. Like I said, trust is a big factor. I mean if you can't trust your chickens - who can you trust? Right Gritty!

2/23/2023 1:45:33 PM

pumpkinpal2

Syracuse, NY

I'll read yours if you read mine, okay?
GO! eg

2/23/2023 1:55:18 PM

pumpkinpal2

Syracuse, NY

Okay - done!
I was a new grower once in about 1999 and I found it all out via the public library looking up a Popular Electronics article to build an audio amplifier. I think I found that and while on the computer, I saw a cartoonish giant pumpkin off to the side from Mallorn's or Back Yard gardener? THAT got me going. There was another incident - too long to explain;
Whatever Jonah R is doing is how it should happen, unless NEW competition at a weighoff is not a problem for y'all, lol -OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH!!! eg

2/23/2023 2:02:02 PM

pumpkinpal2

Syracuse, NY

YUP:
https://www.backyardgardener.com/pumkin.html

2/23/2023 2:04:59 PM

Garwolf

Kutztown, PA

Yep - there's some good places to buy out there too. There not all bad. It's just that when I see a seed advertised on a well known website for $125.00 and I buy it directly from the owner $60 on Facebook the same day somethings not right in pumpkin land. I'm all about capitalism, but there's a fine line between entrepreneurship and usury. You shouldn't invite people into the sport, offer them advice and then say: By the way can I sell you some way over priced seeds.

2/23/2023 3:32:33 PM

VTJohn

Jericho Vermont

It would be interesting to have a model system where the webhost gets a percentage as well as a percentage that goes back to clubs. Overall, it seems like a major headache and expense for the webhost to receive and ship seeds. My guess is the juice is not worth the squeeze.

I do think we all need to come up with out of the box ideas on how to continually fund our club activities as costs of goods are skyrocketing and our product is not necessarily a money maker.

2/23/2023 5:23:22 PM

DKrus

Cheshire Ma USA

I have been giving my seeds away for thirty + years, Even thou I am not considered one of the top or "cool" growers. I was given my first AG seeds by other growers when I just plain asked them for some. I give them to a few clubs that still do a seed exchange and any club that asks for their auctions. Most growers get their start that way and most growers will still give their seeds out that way.

2/23/2023 5:50:35 PM

Little Ketchup

Grittyville, WA

Spudder, if I didnt have a sense of humor I wouldnt have anything :)

2/23/2023 6:40:39 PM

97pounder!

Centennial Colorado

I had the choice to sell my 326 on that site. I sold it in 2021 for $20 for 3 seeds with only 1 person ordering. I opted to not sell it this year because both of the parent seeds were given to me. I am a college student, so that was a difficult decision, but I think the right one. I do think it is greedy that for owning the website they get 45% of the sale. That is why I took down many of my seeds. I have donated probably near 1000 of my seeds with only 10 grown and 2 to make it to the scales. In the end it is your seed and what you do with it is your business.

2/23/2023 7:44:55 PM

Ken D.

Connecticut, USA

Years ago I had a page where new growers could get seeds for the cost of postage only. I had a room of my house dedicated to seeds, bubble envelopes and labels. It just got to be too much work.

2/24/2023 7:41:56 AM

Garwolf

Kutztown, PA

I'm thinking of starting a You Tube page specifically dedicated to new growers that provides alternative ways to get seeds at a fair price or for free. I've picked a lot of brains over the last few years and think I've gathered enough good advice to share.

2/24/2023 8:35:14 AM

PumpkinShepherd (Todd)

Indiana

Some of us sale seeds on websites to cover our cost for getting into this crazy hobby and to buy/support clubs. We aren't getting rich on this just FYI. To get a proven seed you need the funds if your not in the good ol boy network of swapping seeds. Also all seeds I obtain I purchase so I know where they come from. Another reason I sell seeds. One thing I wonder when we seed people selling seeds that have two many in collection how many were giving to them by growers and now profit off of them. If you buy you should feel good to sell. My 2 cents.

2/24/2023 10:10:02 AM

Garwolf

Kutztown, PA

I didn't mean to imply I would start a Youtube just for seed advice. Just that it would include some recommended methods and sources for purchasing seeds so newbies gain get seeds from a trusted supplier, free or other wise. I certainly don't have a problem with anyone trying to sell there seeds. Having said that, there's no reason anyone should feel justified in hosing newbies for seed money just because this hobby cost them money. Triathlon is another one of my hobbies but I don't charge newbies double for Gatorade in order to pay for gas to get to one. It's a hobby so you shouldn't feel entitled to get reimbursed for it. IMO

2/24/2023 10:21:51 AM

pumpkinpal2

Syracuse, NY

Forgive me, Father, for I have Googled;

giant pumpkin seeds

Within 8 inches and the SECOND pictured listing for Giant Pumpkin Seeds is WallaceWow.com and elsewhere on the page as well. If I knew nothing about it, I'd still be all set after comparing just a few 'sites - Ron is well-established!

Anyone taking 2 minutes to find 'Worlds biggest' will do so in that time or less nowadays.
Also saw 'Giant pumpkin seeds from prizewinning growers' - I gotta start taking pics of my own with me standing behind them for size comparison!
It would work on ME!

PS---Here's a 2480 time lapse that'd make anyone think
'Hey, I want the seeds that grew THAT!'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCSQUNrtgwk

I cracked up at the beer can getting tipped over---eg
BTW - I sell my seeds and offer advice at the same time.
That seems ethical.

2/24/2023 7:00:45 PM

pumpkinpal2

Syracuse, NY

By Monday, I'll be a Heavy Hitter.
Well, I'm already 20% Heavy, lol----eg

2/24/2023 7:13:18 PM

LIpumpkin

Long Island,New York

I own GIANTSQUASHSEEDS.COM,
LONGGOURD.COM,
LONGGOURDS.COM,
AND GIANTSQUASH.COM
ANY AND ALL ARE AVAILABLE TO THE RIGHT ENTREPENUER FOR A DECENT OFFER.

2/28/2023 7:00:29 AM

bnot

Oak Grove, Mn

:) aaah, you still have giantsquash (glen? names runaway from me)..

looks like the original registration was in 2004. The hosting company is the same as I chose to use. Current expiration date is 8-23

your landing page appears to what i based is a sedo based redirect
what I see there is redirects for sites related to the game of squash

squash.com could have two directions to go that could be good
does giantsquash have more than one
wayback machine shows...."consistency"

I wonder how much you have invested to keep giantsquash?

the offer accept for giantwatermelon.com is on the watermelon board. If there is any offer..it will be decided by lloyd bright, dawn and myself. Easier to consider if i have more than one to help choose. I might even consider a negative $ offer, that would take some really good extenuation

2/28/2023 7:57:46 AM

bnot

Oak Grove, Mn

proofread - replace the based with believe
there are other errors..but not as glaring

*note to self - work diligently in improving proofread before posting remember pbeforep

2/28/2023 8:06:46 AM

bnot

Oak Grove, Mn

website info may or may not belong here..I am curious about KenD website host question.

Did BP ever migrate server?

2/28/2023 8:43:23 AM

Garwolf

Kutztown, PA

I take it all back, accept for the part about seed sellers hosing newbies. That's just wrong! Further research indicates there just to many people out there, some ethical - some not, that are selling giant pumpkin seeds. There on Etsy, EBay, Facebook, Consignment Websites, Seed Stores, Youtube, not mention some self promotion sites. It's just to big. I'm a realist at heart so this time idealism takes a back seat. It's much to late now.

2/28/2023 11:04:27 AM

spudder

Garwolf, when people ask about growing the first thing a person should do is explain about the work involved such as getting your soil right , pruning etc. and point out that it is not the seed but the grower and genetics of the seed. Maybe you can do a youtube video explaining what goes into growing and point out about these sites (I would not name them) that overcharge taking advantage of peoples lack of knowledge.

2/28/2023 11:59:40 AM

Ken D.

Connecticut, USA

No migration yet bnot. Very expensive and I am in my current office for another year. Eventually will have to move though.

2/28/2023 12:26:50 PM

pumpkinpal2

Syracuse, NY

WHAT is an overpriced seed?
If anyone is willing to pay ??$$ for a seed that MAY sprout, that MAY grow a state record or a neighborhood spectacle, where is the problem with that? If I had seeds that grew 2000-plus and plenty of them, I'd be cleaning up because it is not only a free country, but because of what each seed could do for a new, or NOT, grower and their willingness, educated or not, to pay what they will to me for it.
I started out thinking that a dollar a seed was a fair price for mine, long ago, but there was a minimum involved and I'da been out of any good ones in no time - butt I'da made $400 offa one pumpkin, see? I won't even start about how much a pumpkin seed is actually worth.
Oh, there's be a storm about it, then...
As I showed above, ANYone can Google 'giant pumpkin seeds' and once they see the range of prices, they'll figure it out. Unless you think that anyone on BigPumpkins.com is taking advantage of these poor, helpless little new growers, then, the fight is elsewhere, not here. Continue, of course, business as usual here, my friend. There are plenty of things I despise also but I can't do anything about most of them. My hands would be tired from counting them out, one by one, lol!
I'm not myself when I'm hungry - BK, here I come! laters---eric g

Garwolf, if you wanna sell seeds and sell them for what you feel is appropriate,
'If I ever grow a big one that has valuable seeds, I'll put up my own website before I'd ever give some Joker 50% of the sale. LOL - Just venting I guess.' --- look into WCG, WorldClassGardening.com
and you COULD sell them for a dollar apiece, with your own level of integrity and GUARANTEED controlled crosses therein. I do it and I am weigh at the bottom, wherein I have just enough orders to make me wanna open my emails and occasionally see an order sitting there. Nice! eric g

2/28/2023 3:21:57 PM

Garwolf

Kutztown, PA

Pumpkinpal,

If I grew a big one I'd be willing to sell seeds for a reasonable price. Like you, I'd want to do it on my own as opposed to letting others do it. It's fairly easy to put up a website these days and not real hard to become a "Pumpkin Movie Star" on YouTube. I agree that a seed is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. I just don't like to see the same seed in two place for two extremely different prices. That's BS and should be somehow pointed out when it occurs. Garwolf gone Hollywood. LOL

2/28/2023 4:11:14 PM

cojoe

Colorado

Seeds are property and of course the growers are free do what ever they wish.I hope they keep in mind that the market value is inflated because of seed auctions which are fund raisers not a retail value.Seeds have always been the currency of the hobby and very few of us make a profit off the hobby so there you go.

2/28/2023 5:30:48 PM

Howard

Nova Scotia

The formation of growers' clubs in regions and sharing/selling of seeds/knowledge was and is the heart and soul of growing/promoting giants today whether a pumpkin or a tomato. Yes we are all amazed at some auction prices, good for the club to raise much needed funds. What some growers invest $ today growing a giant sure has evolved since the 1980s. It is a hobby and passion first and foremost.

2/28/2023 6:55:14 PM

BravoV2

Elk County, PA

I like how Ohio valley has theirs. Without knowing sales figures in theory its the best way. Lets just use the 2168 Werner listed on there for 50$. In an auction they may sell one, if the seed blows up and becomes next big seed it will sell for more. If not, it's not even listed in an auction next year. Having it on there now they might sell 10. So instead of 75$, the average rate it went at roughly this year. They got 500$ and its not proven yet. Its cheaper for the consumer and the club makes more money. Its a win win.

2/28/2023 7:07:08 PM

pumpkinpal2

Syracuse, NY

Okay, I got fed and watered so now I can bask in my abode in tropical heat since I got a couple of windows winterized. When my toes thaw out, I'll count how many still work, if any.

Eric's Window Ceiling - get it?

I suppose the selling angles and the buyer's knowledge of AGS and such are the two opposing components, like 'Spin the Wheel and pick a letter'; If you can solve the puzzle, there you go!
If not, you may see what it was after the fact and say 'Ohhhh, that's what it was. Ohhh...'
I had no idea that there even WERE giant pumpkins until one day, I stopped in at a neighbor's to look at their giant sunflowers (10-12 feet or so with foot-wide+ heads) and down low and beheld, my eyes doth glimpse some prolly 125-pounders that I ended up buying one of @ 108 pounds I believe, for like $30? or so. Mighta been the same day I had been at the Public Library's computer!
If so, Whatta Day!
We're on the same page, literally and yeah, Joe, I suppose that the better one is at anything, the wider the scope of what anyone CAN do or is at least ABLE to if they put their mind to it.
In MY case, it's time to WIN at a weighoff, rather than just film it, lol.
Then, there's this one Andy Wolf guy that is going around and...lol---eg

2/28/2023 7:32:52 PM

matt-man

Rapid City, SD

Just need to keep in mind....when purchasing a seed from any BP auction or raffle....all proceeds go to help find weight-offs...I support many clubs every year buy purchasing seeds...only to support their club....as they have supported our club also....BHGPG....the cost of running a weigh-off can cost thousands and the more they can raise the more they pay out

2/28/2023 9:08:58 PM

Garwolf

Kutztown, PA

If you read back, this thread had nothing to do with auctions or auction seed pricing. It goes without saying that the auctions are fund raisers so seed prices are what the buyer is willing to pay. Here, the focus is on some seed consignments, and others taking advantage of new people to the hobby with respect to over priced seeds. An auction is exactly that - highest bidder wins. Conversely, a rip off is just that, the least knowledgeable (newbies) loose.

3/1/2023 10:44:59 AM

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