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Windsor, Ontario, Canada

Anyone ever made this cross. It seems to me that the 616 is one of the ONLY seeds with NO 900 Lyons in it at all.

4/22/2008 12:49:19 PM

Western NY

I grew the 645* Gould a few years ago. It was 616* Corkum x 895* Hester. Grew a nice greenie for me, but it was way under chart.

4/22/2008 1:45:56 PM

Windsor, Ontario, Canada

Interesting that it went light. I think it grew a world record in 2000 (990 Hebb) so I know it has good genetics. Light is no good, but maybe that was a fluke. I don't know what it usually does statistically (heavy or light).

I really want to add something non 900 so I may use the 616 as the pollinator for my 848.

4/22/2008 6:45:08 PM

Western NY

mine was about 16 or 18 percent under the chart. as far as i know, there was only one other offspring from the 645*, and it went heavy, so mine could have been a fluke. all i know is that it was the most beautiful looking squash i had seen until the dill rings developed.

i think there were a few other 895 x 616 crosses, not sure how they did

4/22/2008 8:43:53 PM

Spokane, WA

I have made a couple crossed with no 900 Lyons in them. See my 2007 diary.
Adam

4/22/2008 11:00:07 PM

Netherlands

There are several lines out there without 900 Lyons in them, but you are right, most do.

582 Johnson 03* is also 616 x 895.

I looked into the 616 a bit, but with half of the progeny being pumpkins and many fruit that go below the charts I figured it wouldn't be worth it.

4/23/2008 2:04:17 PM

Windsor, Ontario, Canada

Does it consistently throw green?

How long would it take (5, 10, etc. generations) before a seed would throw green if you to say...cross the 848 with a heavy pumpkin, over and over again?

4/23/2008 2:12:42 PM

Netherlands

The 616 Corkum throws about 50% green and 50% orange. The 616 itself is only about 1/4 squash. It will likely take so many generations that there will hardly be any 616 left in the cross to make it worthwhile. Even then, you might get a throw back once in a while.

4/24/2008 2:27:14 AM