| Seed Starting 
 
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          | Subject:  filing vs. advance starting 
 
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          | From | Location | Message | Date Posted | 
		
            | Smitty | Edmonton, Canada | I'm wondering how many growers file their seed, how many use the advanced seed starting method, and how many do neither. | 3/20/2002 10:15:46 AM | 
		
            | Junior | Ankeny, Iowa | I file my seeds and it works pretty well. I have not tried the advanced method yet.but I might sometime. | 3/20/2002 3:59:43 PM | 
		
            | Water (John) | Midway City, California | Just filing for me.   | 3/20/2002 4:26:39 PM | 
		
            | jeff517 | Ga. | neither,,I'm 3 for 3... | 3/20/2002 5:21:44 PM | 
		
            | Billy K | Mastic Beach, New York | last week i filed two seeds they spouted in less then 19hrs.in the past i just planted the seed in pea pot and waited and waited.i like this method better | 3/20/2002 5:23:02 PM | 
		
            | Big Vine Large Pumpkin | Eagan,Minnesota | This year i will file the seeds and take the embrio out and put it in a Bounty paper towle....Put it in a zip lock!Chris
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            | steelydave | Webster, NY | I experimented with both this winter. They both work fine, the advanced works faster, but the filing is safer. | 3/20/2002 8:36:53 PM | 
		
            | Gads | Deer Park WA | I personally like to softly file the edges with 220 grit sand paper, slowly working my way around to the tip. Then I like to mix a warm solution of liquid Kelp, Leonardite, and mineral water in which I slip the little beauties into for 12 to 18 hours of enrichment. In the morning I kick them to the seed beds, and hope they propigate....... | 3/20/2002 10:15:49 PM | 
		
            | Randoooo | Amherst, WI | So far, I've been using the "neither" method. This year I will try filing and the advanced, practicing on some seeds before it's time to plant the good seeds. 
 | 3/20/2002 10:16:07 PM | 
		
            | Gads | Deer Park WA | I have thought about this "advanced " method alot, does anyone think that this "no effort" birth will allow it to cope with the realitys of existance?  | 3/20/2002 11:13:39 PM | 
		
            | Stan | Puyallup, WA | What are you trying to tell us, Gerry?  No pain, no gain? | 3/20/2002 11:49:18 PM | 
		
            | Joze (Joe Ailts) | Deer Park, WI | Gads-  This "no effort" birth as you called it produced both my 705 and 798 fruit.  The 705 fruit split on 8/23, and was on track for 950+.  The 798 plant was the darkest green and most managable plant i ever had.  All you are doing by taking off the seed coat is speeding up the delivery of water to the embryo. Let me ask you this-  are cesarian section children at any less of a disadvantage in life than natural birth children?  Perhaps not the best comparison but its along the same lines.
 I probably do not even have to state that I will be using my method at this point.
 | 3/21/2002 9:01:55 AM | 
		
            | LIpumpkin | Long Island,New York | Both my daughters were ceasarian births.. there's no difference at all, except maybe that when they leave the house they like to go out through the window.........G | 3/21/2002 10:14:27 PM | 
		
            | Bantam | Tipp City, Ohio | My wife had one natural and our twins were both breech so they were C-section.  No difference as far as the kids go but my wife was in a lot of pain from the C-section.  So it just meant a little more work for me in the first week.  No biggie.  
 As far as the advanced seed starting goes I experimented with it, with a few seeds from last year.  19 of 19 grew.  filing just 8 of 20.  Maybe I did something wrong with the filing.  I will be doing the advanced seed starting on my Giants but for the rest of pumpkins (one acre) I will be direct seeding....Tom
 | 3/22/2002 1:29:20 PM | 
		
            | pumpkinpal | syracuse, ny | i think our main concern with seed-starting methods is the time spent waiting for the magic moment......when you can see from 7 feet away and closing that you've done the right thing, and they have come up since your last observation...the more quickly they sprout, the sooner soil-borne fungus
 and rot become not a problem--lately i've been experimenting
 with snipping the test seed all the way around except for the radicle end with a pair of TOENAIL clippers-just clipping away enough to expose the 'real seed cavity'--the halves of the seed coat remain in the soil or are very easily removed if they come up at all, and the green sheath-like material stays with them, not preventing the seed leaves from opening.....my first post....hope it helps.....
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            | Gads | Deer Park WA | Welcome abord pumpkinpal! Sounds like you have been at this awhile. I have to agree, whatever method gets the giants started is ok. I was just curious if the advanced method caused the plants to be more suseptible to the hardships of the garden. I think that the dissucion of c-section type birth is a very poor comparison, but whatever. Best of luck to you all in 02. | 3/23/2002 2:09:29 AM | 
		
            | Pumpkinlid | Garden Grove     CA. | Playing it safe filing for me  | 4/2/2002 8:08:47 PM | 
		
        
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