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Massachusetts

looking for some 2.48 lovelace , (3.5 king x open)2010.
have seeds to trade if needed. sam can't find his stash, lol.

4/3/2014 4:14:03 AM

Hamilton Nj

i will look in the secret vault tonight never know what i can find found 3 7.33 hunts yesterday,lol pizza

4/3/2014 7:27:45 PM

Hamilton Nj

scott i have 8 of them u can have 4 is that okay ,email me your addy and ill send tomm pizzapete@hotmail.com

happy easter!!!!

4/3/2014 7:36:14 PM

Massachusetts

thanks so much pete, let me know what your looking for, I might just have it! lol, just don't ask me for the 2.48 , lol...

4/4/2014 8:05:57 PM

On top of Brush Mountain, Pa.

What is the parentage of 3.5 King?

4/6/2014 8:05:48 AM

Hamilton Nj

the pack says 2.48 lovelace 3.5 king open not sure marv!!!

4/7/2014 12:09:10 AM

On top of Brush Mountain, Pa.

The point is that what the seed really is has been lost. Did it come from Big Zac? Was it once Delicious? Which Big Zac was it? Did it come through Harp or Timm or what? This is the result of poor record keeping and is why in the future many of us will have no idea what we are growing unless we all keep better records..

4/7/2014 2:09:09 PM

Allentown, PA

Yes, better record keeping is essential for all of us to do in order to know where we have been so we know what to cross, when to cross it, what generation it is, and at the very least to know what strain it actually is if it hasn't been crossed.

4/7/2014 3:03:06 PM

Massachusetts

yes so true marv, I look at what tomato's grew what, then I average out the best seeds. also to you marv, question, the tomato you entered in 2010 is listed as a "supermarv heirloom". I have not seen this mater anywhere else, is this a new cross? or is it listed incorrectly on the official gpc records? if it is I'm sure ken would have no problem updating that, I spend several days online looking for this variety, also your 2009 entry for a 3.62 tomato has nothing listed for the variety of mater, also your 2008 entry for a 2.60 mater also has no variety listed, if you have these , I'm sure ken would be nice enough to enter them for you, and you are correct, we all need to keep better records of our maters , I know sometime the weigh-offs are to busy with pumpkins to list this stuff, but with more popularity , the records are getting better!

4/7/2014 4:14:34 PM

On top of Brush Mountain, Pa.

The tomato listed as Supermarv Heirloom was simply Supermarv, which is an heirloom variety that I have since given up on. The registering of tomatoes in the GPC back earlier were not a priority to anyone and so lots of the information was never listed anywhere. I cannot recall which variety any of those were but at that time my best were Big Zac, Slankard and Belgium Giant. I have since given up on Belgium Giant and grow only a few Slankard and several Big Zac and Big Zac offshoots. I like the taste and appearance of Big Zac so I eat quite a few of them. Belgium Giant probably could have produced some really big ones but I lost interest in it.

4/7/2014 5:10:28 PM

Massachusetts

yes, as I look at the older weigh-offs, the records are sparse, I think its more important that we keep track of the seeds from the last few years as this tomato growing gets bigger every year and more prize money is involved. it will be very tuff to find out the lineage of most of the older seeds, it just was not as important back then as it is now, years ago if someone grew a monster tomato, they would keep that seed a secret, after all it is a competition. but now the growers are much more likely to share what seed grew what. we can't chase every old seed down to find out what it was, only the newest ones we can keep an eye on.....

4/7/2014 5:33:49 PM