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Honeoye Falls New York

ph 6.6
p 90 ppm
k 166 ppm
calcium 1514ppm
mg 264 ppm
sulfer 8 ppm
boron0.9 ppm
copper 1.6 ppm
iron 147 ppm
manganesse 88 ppm
zinc 3.7 ppm

organic matter 3.0%

4/23/2010 9:26:27 AM

South East

depending on your size pach your gonna need lime, pottasium, calcium, and when fall comes work on your organic matter.

4/23/2010 10:36:49 PM

Honeoye Falls New York

Thanks cooks by patch size is 900 sq ft any recomondations on how much of each thing ill need thanks for your imput

4/24/2010 8:49:12 AM

Pataskala,OH

PH is acidic needs to be around 7.

4/24/2010 11:20:18 AM

Willamette Valley, Oregon

You'll likely want to add Nitrogen too. 2 to 4 pounds on your plot depending on how agressive you want to be. N is the first number in the N-P-K numbers on fertilizer.

4/24/2010 2:48:41 PM

South East

On 900 square feet you could start out with 50 lbs of gypsum, 25 lbs of calcitic lime, and if you wanted to add nitrogen you could add some 25 lbs of blood meal. For pottasium i would start off with some 25 lbs of sulfur of potasch 0-0-50.
And since we are at the beginning of season, consider adding some kelp meal, for trace minerals and growth hormones to you patch. Next to that you could add some pelletized humic acid some 20 lbs to your patch. Humic acid wil help raise your cec and make some locked up nutrients availabe.
Then in fall work on your organic matter by adding a decent amount of manure, composted, shredded leafs, grasclippings, etc.
Good luck Ange.

4/24/2010 3:07:12 PM

Honeoye Falls New York

Great info Cooks! Now do i broadcast these through out the patch and till them in? Also where do I find these materials?

4/24/2010 6:14:17 PM

South East

look for a feed store in your area. lowes carries Lime. And check the internet. Theres links here on bp to. Yes spread ammendments and work them in.

4/25/2010 10:52:24 AM

Honeoye Falls New York

can i add a few inches of aged manure now as well?

4/25/2010 5:52:53 PM

Www.extremepumpkinstore.com

Ange, you do not want add 25 lbs of potash to a 900 sq ft patch in April, this amount should be spread out over the fall and spring, if you have very sandy soil you can get away with it, it will leech out fast, you will be creating a very toxic enviroment.
With all due respect to the recommendations given, you are far better off adding half that at the most and giving the plants a light potassium spray like 0-0-25 weekly throughout the season. It is better to be low and be able to add as you need it, then to over do it in the spring and ruin your season.
you can email me your soil test results at tprivitera@optonline.net and give me a call, we can go over your test.
Tom

4/27/2010 10:43:39 AM

Honeoye Falls New York

omg tom thank you very much

4/27/2010 5:14:06 PM

South East

Foliar is an option to. Although i dont agree with 25 lbs beeing toxic to your soil. Excess potassium can inhibit magnesium and calcium uptake. 25 lbs would raise your ppm from 166 to about 266 if that, wich wouldent be excessive. But some of it wil leach, some of it wil get locked in, and if you apply it with the gypsum, some of it wil actually be 'moved' by the calcium to deeper soil levels, even on high cec soil, thus sparing any young plants of an overdose. It takes roughly about 8lbs of K20 to raise ppm levels by 1 on an acre of land, so you could calculate what you need. But i guess a safer way for a new grower would be to use half, like Tom said and spray foliars. If hes offering his time to go over it with you i would take it. Very nice of him for sure.

4/27/2010 10:38:54 PM

Honeoye Falls New York

I totally agree and Look forward to talking to Tom

4/27/2010 11:33:34 PM

Paradise Mountain, New York

A couple years ago my soil was out of balance. So I contact several of the world heavy hitters. The best advice I got was from Joe Jutras about adding Potash. Add 10 lbs per 1,000 square feet. Being that it's planting time, using 25 lbs. would be a over kill and it will throw your soil way out of wack. If you got clay soil, the potash will be there a very long time and not leech out. It's better to add half of what you think you need then do a soil test again in the fall. To many growers wait until spring every year to do a soil test. It's best to do one in the fall, and make adjustments. Then wait and do another in the spring.

4/28/2010 12:35:45 AM

Muddy Waters

I see a PH 6.6 would the sulfur lower ph?? would you want to go lower than 6.6?? Just asking I just sent soil sample out, I havent done that in 12 years.I will being needing help soon myself.

10/9/2010 6:33:19 AM