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Follansbee, Wv

To increase oxygen at the root level?

http://ma.essortment.com/howtooxygenate_pjy.htm

I realize it would be expensive the way it's described, but I thought of an alternative method. The shock treatment I use in my pool is a chlorine free shock (Baquacil) composed of 27% H2O2. That is 9 times stronger than standard H2O2 bought at the store (which is only 3%). So am I correct in assuming that one gallon of shock could treat 72 gallons of water? That still seems strong to me considering I use shock in the pool at the rate of one gallon to every ten thousand gallons of pool water! The shock is only $14.00/gal. I realize this could still get expensive, but a once a month treatment wouldn't be bad, if it proved to be benificial. Any thoughts out there?

10/20/2004 5:37:48 AM

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

Look for a friendlier alternative. Calcium Peroxide slowly releases through out the season. To much oxygen can also be a bad thing. Most solutions used in Agricultural purposes are .03% so you would need to dilute it a lot more than you have listed.

10/20/2004 12:01:44 PM

Wichita, KS

seems worth mentioning here... Look a couple posts down on the message board to find "putting more O in H2O" and you will see another item that does a similar thing. Which do you think might work better of the three listed in this thread?

10/20/2004 1:51:25 PM

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

The Calcium Peroxide was recommended to me by a 3M Engineer. He was a waste treatment specialist. They used Calcium Peroxide on tainted toxic soil to increase the nutrient and metal take up in cover crops. They would then harvest the material and dispose of it properly. If it were more economical to try I would give it a shot. H2O2 40% can be purchased rather cheaply in 1 gallon quanities by Hair Dressers. I see no need for the addition of this much oxygen unless you are growing in super poor soil with exteremly bad drainage. The addition of organic matter and reducing compaction should be all the average grower needs. Unless your name is Steve and you want to convert a hot tub in to a hydroponic system.

10/20/2004 2:25:39 PM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

Hey you have to admit it was an intriguing idea.

10/20/2004 3:23:02 PM

Follansbee, Wv

I'm going to have to do some experimenting. I have found various sites recommending many different dilution rates. The "putting more O in H2O" thread is what got me thinking about H2O2. I'll post my progress in my diary.

10/20/2004 5:14:33 PM

Appalachian Mtns.

I researched it heavily, it isn't economically viable (unless you're rich), and you could do more harm than good by adding those type chemicals to your patch.
Go simple, get a dirt plugger and punch lots of 8-10" holes.

10/20/2004 6:11:07 PM

Follansbee, Wv

Kyle, what do the holes do?

10/20/2004 9:40:23 PM

Mill Creek West by god Virginia

it allows more oxygen into soil,??????????????? i beleive more oxygen more life in the soil think organic

10/20/2004 9:57:25 PM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

Aerate the soil. Oxygen in the root zone oxidizes mineral elements so they're available to roots. It also stimulates soil bacteria that decay organic matter & liberate nutrients. Oxygen is plenty abundant in the atmosphere & needn't be purchased in a bottle. If a soil was so heavy that H202 was beneficial, then the compacted condition would still impede the travle of roots on their quest to find nutrients & water (& more H2O2 treated water for that matter).

We researched this & many similar materials a couple years ago here. We went so far as to contact the inustrial division of FMC in our quest to locate quantities sufficient for field use that wouldn't break the bank. Because my company deals with the Ag division of FMC, I had an "in". That "in" became an "out" when they offered to quote me on tanker deliveries.

Search "Calcium Dioxide", "Magnesium Dioxode", & "Hydrogen Peroxide & Dioxide".

The main benefit is to hydroponic growers & the company selling the H2O2. Field use is probably not a good application for us.

10/20/2004 10:05:19 PM

Western NY

LOL steve, i think we must have talked to the same guy! i'm pretty sure FMC were the ones i contacted about some calcium peroxide, and they wanted to sell me a tractor trailer load of it.

anyway, i did do some experimenting with some calcium peroxide (sold under the trade name of oxy-cal) i eventually tracked down.

my advice is that's it's best to only use if you have a low pH, because it will raise it. can't say as it helped or hurt, but it's a neat little powder if you decide to try it. i probably won't use it again unless the conditions are right for me.

10/20/2004 10:37:56 PM