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Alberta

I've been reading the book and it says high nitrogen for plants that haven't got fruit yet. I started late. The only thing I can find in town that has high nitrogen (thats the first one, right?) is 30-10-10 for evergreens and shrubs. Is it good to use?

jeremy

7/26/2002 1:17:48 AM

Garden State Pumpkins

Hey Jeremy, evergreens and shrubs is usually high acid content. If nothing else stick with MG 15-30-15 roots are still important...20-20-20 peters plant food gotta be somewhere. and bloom buster might help if the plant is large enough and needs flowers.

7/26/2002 9:38:08 AM

Alberta

The plants aren't large yet and not in need of flowers. I want to increase the size of the vines. I already have lots of 20-20-20 but the book says to use that once flowers are set. So I guess this is early season, not mi.

jeremy

7/26/2002 10:56:21 AM

Garden State Pumpkins

I'd still go with the 15-30-15 a large blue vine with no roots will wilt in the sun. Wilting ain't growing...borrowed that from Kilr! chuck

7/26/2002 8:10:49 PM

Key West, FL

i just happen to have a 5 pound box of 30-10-10 i havnt used it, just been using 15-30-15. The 30-10-10 is very high in acid it say but would it be good to use or not?

7/26/2002 9:28:47 PM

South Hill, Virginia

Ben,

I had a 5 pound box of 30-10-10 laying around too and I used it from the time i had a vine several feet long up until I was getting close to pollination then I went to 20-20-20. Not sure if that was the right thing to do or not but it's done.

7/26/2002 9:45:12 PM

Leicester, NY

Jeremy,
Sounds like you are talking about Miracid from the makers of Miracle-Gro? That is intended for acid loving plants such as evergreens and blueberries. The 30-10-10 numbers are okay if you are still trying to establish a plant, but I would be very careful using something such as this, that may change you pH levels..Joe P.

7/26/2002 10:33:58 PM

Key West, FL

i think ill just stick with the 15-30-15. i was just wondering if the 30-10-10 would be better. my vines are about 5 to 6 feet is the 15-30-15 good or should i try something else im not planing on pollinating any females for atleast 2 weeks

7/26/2002 11:12:53 PM

Alberta

Its Plant Prod for evergreens. I just got How To Grow World Class Giant Pumpkins II and it says to use high phosphorous for weeks 1 through 4 for root development and for weeks 5 through 8 to use high nitrogen before going to 20-20-20 in week 9 when fruit starts to set. So you all use high phosphorous right up until the fruit sets and then switch to a balanced fertilizer?

jeremy

7/27/2002 7:01:59 PM

syracuse, ny

i haven't broken the 1000 pound mark yet, so no pro,
but one thing i do know is it's a bummer to have a plant taking its time to put out even the male flowers! i had the same idea, because my plants seemed to be a liitle too small to accomplish anything yet, to try to make them grow faster by putting some calcium nitrate on the soil and watering it in around the plant up to like 3 feet around the entire thing----as you will read again and again, too much nitrogen will delay the flowering and cause aborts on fruityousetIdecded NOT to experiment, and i'm glad i
didn't!----i wouldn't use anything with a higher percentage of nitrogen if you're a bit off from Don Langevin's schedule---also, i think part of the reason Miacle-Gro works wonders is because of the increased rooting
it causes, as well as increased flowering activity...
in both cases, causing the plant, basically, to grow faster and larger because of these two "prompts" to the plant---
you can kick a horse and it will run from you: you can hold out some greens and it will run to you: there's something
akin to intelligence in there somewhere! either way the horse gets a move on because of yer action, but which direction?

anyway, i would stick to the low-high-low formula,npk,
and use the 30-10-10 for its intended purpose...that's
my 2 cents' worth--------pumpkinpal

7/31/2002 7:22:11 PM

syracuse, ny

in addition to my belated 2 cents' worth--somethin' happened and started erasing my text as i typed in more--

my plants just sorta took off on their own around the 10'
to 12 foot mark---they just started growing like crazy!
now they're as big as last year's----soil was massaged quite
a bit, with cow manure last fall, like 3 times the normal
dose of Ironite, double dose of super phosphate, and 14/14/14 Osmocote, as well as the standard 6#/100sq.ft.10/10/10 maybe that has an effect on growth,
also---but as i said, i would steer clear of high nitrogen...bury the vines and trim away tertiaries, like i need to right now!

7/31/2002 7:38:47 PM

North Ga

I agree with Chuck, and J.P. with the addition of some fish, seaweed emulsion. High nitrogen If you are going for some green leaf growth. Use water soluable fert as the grandular breaks down slower. I'm a rookie so that is my 2 cents worth.

7/31/2002 9:38:43 PM

North Ga

Also try to foiler spray with the f/s emulsion

7/31/2002 9:39:57 PM