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Rhode Island

is it true that a bit of urine deposited around the plants root system is a good thing? and, if a little is good is a lot great?

can we pipe our toilet right out to the patch?

what about # 2 --- can we compost it in with the coffee grinds and grass clippings?

is it true ron wallace used this method?

also can i germinate my seeds in the oven set on warm?
or should i go with something more reliable like the dash board of my car?

thanks

i.p.daily

4/20/2007 7:22:19 PM

Minnesota

I'm new, I bet it would'nt hurt, I have heard coffee grounds and grass clippings in compost makes for good compost. That sounds crazy to me, put your seeds in the oven, would'nt the dash dry them out. I do it the old fashioned way, black dirt, filed sides, soaked for 4 hours, 1 inch deep, some water, when dry add a little more, and voila, like magic 99% come up.

4/20/2007 9:18:15 PM

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

Fog Surfer I think Pap might know a little bit about growing pumpkins...:)

4/20/2007 11:10:27 PM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

Urine has a nominal analysis ot 16-5-5 which makes a nice organic early season get along.

Average Analysis of Human Urine

Carbon
11-17%

Nitrogen
15-19%

Phosphorus
2-5%

Potassium
3-5%

Calcium
4-6%

Dilute in 10 parts water & you're good to go - lousy pun intended.

4/20/2007 11:50:19 PM

Owensboro, Ky.

Tremor, Sodium #'s in Human Urine? Any ideas, are they real high? The greenest part of my lawn is where I P !!! Peace, Wayne

4/21/2007 12:30:30 AM

Belmont, NH

Pap, dust off your old copy of Langevin's first "How to Grow" book and go to page #76. He has a nice article about organic fertiiizers. Picture included.

Bruce

4/21/2007 6:37:29 AM

Rhode Island

bruce
is that the one with al berard sitting on a toilet out in his patch? if so i do recall
pap

4/21/2007 7:17:40 AM

Midway City, California

Pap If you have a gas stove with a polit light in the oven you should be ok. My seeds open in about four days.
I do not push my seeds I do sand the edges, soak them and then place them in starter soil filled ice cream containers. Works for me John = Water

4/21/2007 8:20:07 AM

Belmont, NH

You got it pap. I remembered it as being Al Berard as well but when I looked it up it turns out to be Gary Keyzer " the Midwestern Maniac". For those without the first book it is a picture of Gary sitting (with pants down around his ankles) on a toilet that is on top of a picnic table which in turn is right next to his pumpkin patch. Sewer pipe and all from the toilet running into the patch. Looks like a pretty nice pumpkin growing in there as well.....Hmmmmm, I do have an old toilet from my winter remodeling job. Wonder if the wife would let me put in on the deck? It's only 20 feet from the patch.

Bruce

4/21/2007 9:00:16 AM

Gary first started growing AG's in 1984 here in Wisconsin and is still active. He gave me a copy of that picture and was wearing a tee shirt with it printed on last year at the Nekoosa Pumpkin Fest weighoff.

Still old school in his growing techniques but a great guy, he says this will be his last year growing because of some health issues. We're all rooting for him to finish big.

4/21/2007 10:17:28 AM

Mill Bay, British Columbia

Pap, seems to work in Sweden.

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=30594

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=18366

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=15676

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=16195

4/21/2007 12:26:47 PM

Mastic Beach, New York

isnt #2 also called "Targo" in the NortWest pacfic?

4/21/2007 1:03:10 PM

Rhode Island

what abour dog poop? use it dry or fresh? ugh

4/21/2007 2:20:28 PM

ordinary,VA

Pap,
I have diabetes my urine is loaded with sugar should work well with any organic program.
will be happy to send you a year supply.


my pun is worse than yours Steve..

4/21/2007 7:24:58 PM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

Wayne,

The pH is alkaline (8.4 I think) & it is fairly high in salts which is why the dilution is 10-15 parts:1.

4/21/2007 7:53:24 PM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

Ed...no need for molasses after all eh? LOL

4/21/2007 9:52:00 PM

maine USA

Wayne, you pee on your lawn, Too Much information! Lol KathyT

4/21/2007 10:45:52 PM

maine USA

Tremor, if you are saying that the PH of urine is around 8.4
that isn't right. The normal PH of urine is typically 5.0 to around 7.0. If it sits for a period of time the PH will increase. But freshly "excreted" urine is in the range of around 5-7.0. thanks KathyT

4/21/2007 10:53:30 PM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

I stand corrected. So it's no worse than any other synthetic fertilizer.

4/22/2007 12:29:02 AM

Rhode Island

kathy i did not know you were a urexpert. lol

4/22/2007 7:53:12 AM

Ray, North Dakota

Yeah, that Gustavsson from Sweden banks his urine all winter and adds it to his garden.

20 yards of 60 year old cow manure is what was put into my garden last fall. Really makes the soil nice and mellow.

Just a few problems with red root pigweed, but they are easy to control.

I've tried to stay away from throwing our dogs droppings in the garden.

4/22/2007 11:13:11 AM

maine USA

Not an expert, but very experienced in the area, [unfortuneately], lol. I am a medical lab technician, and I have done thousands of urine dip sticks, urine ph is one of the many tests on the dipsticks. I don't recall what a normal urine sodium is but I will try to find out. Kathy

4/22/2007 12:41:42 PM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

We are a wealth of diverse information here at BP! LOL

4/22/2007 2:01:30 PM

maine USA

lol!

4/22/2007 5:17:24 PM

North Smithfield, RI USA

and as for diverse information, where can I find 60 yr old cow manure in RI ?

4/22/2007 5:39:25 PM

ordinary,VA

i love this post.


will be going 100% organic except for all those chemicals i will be using :)

4/22/2007 8:36:26 PM

caro mi.

herbie ...what is a good way to get rid of that red root pigweed , thats the worst weed i have in the my garden .....Dan

4/22/2007 11:27:20 PM

Minnesota

I was in the army inn korea they told us, don't eat the fruit the locals use there urine and feces for manure, so, they use it there, I bet in won't kill the plant

4/23/2007 12:15:44 AM

White Plains, NY

I marveled at a friend's tomato plants. Huge plants, very green leaves and gorgeous fruit. Upon inspection I found them to be growing in the moist lush part of a failed septic system. Our pumpkins being non edible should be very happy in that enviroment. The odor, not for me.

4/23/2007 8:14:55 AM

President - GPC

lol.....

4/23/2007 9:30:34 AM

President - GPC

Guess there was one question I forgot to ask Paps....

4/23/2007 9:40:17 AM

Ohio

When my Dad was in China a little over 10 yrs ago he told me that workers would pick up the Porte-johns and dump them into some kind of truck , he watched one of these trucks sling S#@% over 100ft into farmers fields,,,,,, Chinese take out anyone?

4/23/2007 8:35:00 PM

San Jose garysand@pacbell.net

as long as you are NOT going to eat anything from your garden, i think its ok to add any manure

4/23/2007 9:32:43 PM

Long Island,New York

and when you get down on your hands and knees to pull the weeds.............

4/24/2007 2:48:08 PM

ordinary,VA

SPOT-HERE-- SPOT----HERE BOY --------SPOT..

ANYONE SEEN MY DOG?

CHINESE TAKEOUT IT IS Brooks:)

4/24/2007 2:48:24 PM

Rhode Island

brooks i thought that was cat take out?

4/24/2007 8:14:09 PM

Somers, CT

Pap, A little advice regarding the seeds in the oven. If you sprinkle a little salt on them before you put them in the oven, it works much better. Just wait till they are light brown and they will be ready.

Everyone, Thanks! I had just forgotten about the Sweden posts and now they are back! Uggghhhh!

5/2/2007 9:02:19 PM

Wilmington.Ma.

Brooks the trucks were called HONEY wagons.

5/3/2007 4:08:56 PM